Guild Goals for the week

[Eirene]

Leveling

Low End - 25-30 (Lowbies we need to get up in levels)

High End - 40-45 By Friday

First, I'm glad we are about even in levels. However, we need to have more people start running groups and not wait for us to hold your hand through instances. A lot of you have leveled in DAoC before and should know the program.

I'd like to see more people involved in helping others like *cough* Snod and Kir. A lot of people don't know you guys. And would be beneficial to take one or 2 lowbies with you guys where ever you go.

Lastly if we do get 2 high level necros, we may start leveling in Avalon City or Caldey for guild leveling. Best leveling is to get a 8 man team and do Adventure Wings. If we are lacking some classes, let me know. We maybe doing some outside recruiting.

RvR
If we get our high end people to 45 by Friday, we will be doing RvR missions with the entire guild like taking towers, killing guards to boost up realm points and RAs. For those that came back to the game, a few months ago RvR missions were implemented. A mission can be guild, group or personal. Missions include killing 25 guards from another realm, taking a tower from another realm or killing 15 enemies. Depending on mission, you receive 750 realm points for completion, 300 realm points for assasination mission and a LARGE amount of EXP. If we do a couple of guild missions, majority of the guild will be RR1L5 - RR2 and can get MCL, etc.

Guild Dues
Once we have increased our guild level, we will be turning on guild dues. The guild dues will be used for crafting, skill respecs and other needs.

Guild Merit points
One of these days we will turn on the 24 hour 2% exp bonus but we will let you know.

Crafters
If you are planning to be a guild crafter, let me know. We will set you up with a mini-fund to start crafting.

Free Level
/freelevel checks the status of free levels. Please use this as soon as you can. The feature stops at level 47.

Alliances
We will let you know.

Recruitment
We are not recruiting, unless they are real close friends and self sufficient (aka not whining in guild chat begging for PL).

[Kirt]

sorry celest my playtime has been shot to hell most of this past week so only been on early mornings

also my necro account does not have catacombs making it a bit more difficult for me at the moment to join up but i will group up a lowbie if we still have any

[Augomatic]

Well, to be honest, I haven't been particularly happy with the whole levelling thing on both fronts.

People just don't seem to be helping out much, in either direction.

On one hand, I know for awhile yesterday, there were 4-5 L30's running an instance together, with what I can only assume was 3-4 empty spots. How come they didn't fill these with lowbies, or even people in their 20's? Sure enough, as the rest of their "core 8 person group" logged on, they filled in the spots quietly with them.

I thought the plan was to always group anyone? Thats what I was doing all Saturday and Sunday. At several points, it was basically me, and 4-5 people who were 7-10 levels lower than me. I got crap XP, but they all got 4-5 levels.

On the other side of things, I kept seeing people I PL'd the 4-5 levels log on, ask if there was a group, and when there wasn't, log off. They could have pretty easily started their own group, or grabbed some lower level players, and PLd them instead.

Personally, this doesn't affect me too much. I'm pretty sure that if I spent the rest of my time levelling solo, I could hit 50 by the end of the week pretty easily (Necros are retarded, LOL).

My biggest concern is it looks like there is shaping up to be an A squad and a B squad. It's not just the levelling, but its the whole guild rank thing. Although I think its kinda funny, labelling all the people from way back as Guild Rank 2 Old School, and everyone else as Guild Rank 9 Pee Wee League makes me wonder if when I hit 50, I'll be the guy who gets a group if so and so is not on.

Frankly, I've played DAoC for over 3 years, and don't want to be a sub-in. Alb Lamo kept saying they were going to be the guild that would just take anyone and go when it comes to RvR, as long as they don't suck, heheh.

I spent a month in Ravendous, which was basically an 8v8 guild. You'd log on, try and start a group, and everyone would by "busy" until they had their standard 8, then they'd quietly go off and start RvRing. What happened yesterday reminded me a lot of that.

And really, if thats what you want to do, then fine, just tell me now before I end up spending hundreds of hours PLing half the guild to 50.

Oh, and one last thing, there are exceptions to what I said above. I know some people are helping out, not trying to say everyone is being selfish, and are doing things like working up tradeskills to help the guild etc.

[Kirt]

btw not sure how many realize this but inviting ppl lower lvl than you only increases xp in an instance and those lower lvl ppl can hit mobs with the new to hit bonuses from having highest lvl person in group be leader

[Joshll]

Hloden, point taken on the guild rank name. I absolutely agree with you. We'll get those changed.

And we also thank you for helping level up the lowbies with us yesterday. It's a what goes around comes around thing. And almost everyone over level 15 has been a beneficiary of powerlevelling, and also been one of the people powerlevelling. It was a good weekend for the guild and I was really happy to see everyone helping everyone else out.

There is no A squad and B squad. But we do have so far about 11 or 12 higher level people that all play about the same time and the same amount, and who's classes compliment each other. This makes it easy for us to keep progressing together. That will probably continue. It's also won't be perpetually fair to ask the highest level people to keep on powerlevelling everyone else. It will still happen, like it did yesterday, but at some point the people that got powerlevelled need to return the favor. And if one group is doing an 8 man instance and someone else needs a group, then start one up! But part of the reason the high level group works is because we've got a couple active clerics, and we've got a couple active palidans, and we have TP as sorcerer, and we have a couple tanks. Usefull classes. Once we get to RVR, we'll be running with as many groups as we can put together to run together. But again, that will be limited to how balanced we can keep the guild for classes. If we only have 1 Minstrel, I can pretty much guarantee he'll have a reserved spot in group 1 whenever he wants. And the viability of group 2 just went down because of classes. I don't know what you can do about that.

/edit - one more point - you have no obligation to power level lots and lots of people to 50. It's great we've all been helping each other out, but it sure doesn't fall to one person to feel responsible for that.

[Mosthula]

You guys have been doing great. Niko and I didnt even ask to join the powerleveling group we got invited to. So hats off to everyone for trying to get people up in levels. For anyone that is lower level than Niko and myself (18 currently), feel free to send me a tell when we are on. I have no problem bringing others along as long as we can still kill the monsters. We run a Minstrel, Paly, Heretic (May change to cleric) trio, so we are fairly self sufficient as it is.

As far as the guild ranks go, Im pretty sure Hall just threw those together on a whim and was more trying to have fun with the names than really try to setup ranks. Give it time there.

Please dont fret over the perception that an elitist group A is forming. We have only been active for a few days now and that group is simply a result of a lot of people playing and grouping together. That very same group has powerleveled at least 8 other people to 20+ at the same time getting themselves 30+.

I know I am very excited and happy to be playing with a lot of old friends while making a lot of new friends that I havent met in my Past playing with BWC/CoE.

[Augomatic]

Well, as I said, I'm personally not so worried about the levelling since the necro/cleric combo is easy mode.

I also agree that you need to run balanced groups in RvR, at least as much as you can, and I don't think you should run 6 clerics or something.

My big worry is that when there are people on wanting to RvR, people don't invite a L50 tank to the group, because they know X will be logging on in an hour, so they hold his spot. Or even worse, kick someone when someone else logs on.

This might especially become prevalent if one group of the guild hits 50 first and starts RvRing while others are catching up. It won't take long to hit RR5, and suddenly the RR1 character who hit 50 is being left out of groups while people wait for their RR5 equivalent to log on.

Of course I realize there has to be a limit to this. The person who logs on for 2 hours a week and expects to be PL'd straight to 50 has an unrealistic expectation, or the guy who goes AFK and forgets to mez not getting a group (Oh wait, I don't think he rolled Alb ). And once again, if thats how things are going to be run, I have no problem with it either, I just don't want to be told this is going to be a more open guild, only to figure out after 2 months its basically a few people running the same set 8v8 group all the time and subs.

Overall I think things are going well, and I'm having fun, I'm just starting to see warning signs of some of the cliques forming up around when people played w/ BWC. I hope people of all levels just start inviting people to group based on the fact that they are in the guild instead of waiting for the people they "know" to log on.

[Phineas]

I spent a month in Ravendous, which was basically an 8v8 guild. You'd log on, try and start a group, and everyone would by "busy" until they had their standard 8, then they'd quietly go off and start RvRing. What happened yesterday reminded me a lot of that.

I left Ravendous for this reason when I joined them briefly after BWC went to WoW.

[Hall]

The ranks are made for a simple reason

Old School = Older member of BWC / O

Varsity = Proven competant player

JV = Not Proven Player or you made some boo boos

Pee Wee League = you just aggroed the entired dungeon because you didnt wait when told to.

BWC Friends = not core bwc but friends of BWC, everyone has a new name so its hard to keep track.

[Joshll]

Really the purpose of the ranks seems to be to reflect Hall's opinion of you at any given moment, or if he wants to give you shit. He seems to think it's a motivational tool =P

[Sirion]

Yeah, I think it was a mistake teaching him how to edit rank titles, and I apologize for my lack of foresight.

[Hall]

Dam josh words hurt.

It is a motivational tool it is slowly working

[Sectoid]

I just wanted to say something about what augo said that he saw some level 30s in a dungeon. I think that may have been Xark, Celest, and me who were in a PUG in Catacombs of Cardova. It was full of course so it was just us 3 and some random people. Later in the evening hall filth and the some other people started to log on and it was viable for us to make a full group of guildies to try out the Catacombs so that's why we ended up disbanding and trying it out, we weren't just in there waiting for people to log in.

[okra]

I didn't know how the new system was going to work so I apologize for being bitchy, I just don't like falling behind.

[Darkschnieder]

I'm really trying to catch up in levels and do instance task as fast as i could. But it doesn't matter how much easier Mythic made grinding in daoc is, the fact won't change that soloing with a caster in this game simply isn't pretty. And I've had a pretty busy weekend so I didn't have enough time to play + my mouse has been acting strange so I had to get a new one. I'd also be more than happy to PL anyone who is still below 20, so if you are don't hesitate to PM me ingame.

And I just wanted to say thx to all the PL'ers out there who went out of their way to PL us lowbies.... I really appreciate all the help..... Defintely looking forward to RvRing with you guys