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[Sirion]

No offense, but I've never been impressed by any of those guilds. Their players are subpar, they simply excel at taking orders, because if they don't do that well their dictator removes them. Our guild may not hold a candle to their guilds as you say, but their members don't have shit on anyone that knows the real intricacies of their class. Some of the people in BWC were like that, others were not.

[Sirion]

Also note, chat programs and being game industry leaders doesn't lead half of those players to victory, leveling faster than everyone else, always having tons of people behind them, and (generally speaking) cheating before everyone else starts does. Just look at Conquest if you want an example of a good pve guild that won pvp on Merlin because they level'd fastest and their leader cheated before the majority of the population did.

[Hall]

Filth PWNED it.

[Nilbert500]

[Naturalis]

only reason fatalis was better than us was because we didnt SC and cap out our chars stats and resistances like they did. <points at hall in epic and df glowy weapons>

when we're 60, i dont want to see any of you holding bullshit weapons or shit ass armor either. that was our downfall before and wont be it again.