HIB RR.. ALB RR.. MID RR?

[Bulor]

Hib:
-Took keeps fast.. didn't bother to claim
-Attacked 2 keeps at a time
-Took d1 down with a Defended RK
-low numbers

Alb:
-Ninja
-3 rams at all doors(stealther ram)
-No guard spam at all
-mass numbers

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Suggestion for our counter attack..

BWC/as & MYTH/as

BWC/as takes:
Eras/Bold/Ren

MYTH/as takes:
Surs/Berk/Hurb

we leave beno alone... we don't bother to claim keeps.. we don't plan to stay long.. maybe we just get quik claim on 2.. ren and hurb.

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We should have all SB ram groups prepared long in advance.. get Mikesbabe form Tingtong Inc to start mass producing rams.. or everyone can start doing daily ram runs to bled.

After all keeps are down, myth can just hit POW rk alone.. forcing albs to rush to the POW RK to regain control.. as BWC hits STR RK.. but we must hit POW RK first.. just to cuase albs to spread the distance.

[Drutt-myth]

good plan but i suggest we forget taking any keeps.

split the groups into 2 equal forces as close as possible with the one hitting snow as diversion. after about 7 mins the other hits FS now if the groups are equal in size the snow group can then retreat and head to FS with the albs never noticing and all on their way to snow. because if there is 70 in each grp they will get spam from 70 at both rks . see what i mean ? the groups just need to be close with in a few people and albs will never notice by the time they get to snow both groups will be hitting FS hard and nasty. the snow grp can even go block the road to RK.

with 4 relics they have less guards so 70 should be albe to hold on and if we can drop a SB group inside with 3 rams we can have that inner door down fast. we will need 2 sb grps min though 1 to take out defenders as they log in.

mysticle of Clan ][ thought up hitting both RK's like that and it could work. all we need to do is catch a large portion of them on horses to snow. and a few mins confusion could make all the difference.

would need to be worked out in a little more detail. and we cant forget the spies either i think going through dodens is the answer. we could rally at fens away from the lvl 1 alt spies watching the portal pad or at glen even.
once out of dodens you head due west on the wall behind surs to the west wall and south down past elly's to the gk. patrol free route

but i really think we need to leave that power relic where it is untill we pop our strength out of FS

[SuperHelix]

Now to come up with 140 mids or so. Good luck.

Only way.. Plan a date and time, keep it as private to boards as possible.

Do not have DF. If we have DF, it will fail.

Bulor and Drutt, take the lead and I will back you up. Plan a time/date.

My reco is a Wed or Thurs.

At least we should be hitting RK's 3-4 times a week.

[Joshll]

They now have 4 relics. Their RK guards are weak. We don't need to take Alb keeps anymore. 50 Mids could handle the RK guards if we worked together and didn't have to worry about defenders.

But Albion outnumbers us in RVR. They will zerg response quickly. Mid moral is down. We will have a hard time getting 100 mids. And if we do, likely albion will know from their spies.

I hate to say it but we need to do an alarm clock raid.
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And whats the consensus? If we take a relic, do we get the power relic back so we only have one RK to defend?

Do we take a strength relic now while RK guards are weak? And then go back and get the power relic later?

Can we defend two Relic Keeps in our current state of weakness?

[Joshll]

The strategy they used:

"There were more Albion Infiltrators and Minstrels inside the RK than there were defenders.

And, from what I heard, there were three rams on Door 3, three rams on Door 2, and three rams on Door 1 all at the same time. "

Hitting on doors sequentially (1-2-3) is old tactics. The new tactics here and on other servers is to drop all three doors at the same time by using stealth ram teams. Or if you can't accomplish that then drop only D3 using SB's and have a SB grab the relic with D1/D2 untouched.

6-10 minute relic raids. If you can get there undetected it is almost impossible to defend against.

[Zoidmeister]

I think Ninja type tactics are the only way to go since we don't have the numbers anymore. Also large raids are laughable on this server - nobody listens.

Either early morning hard-core alliance folks or we perfect the SB seige technique on the 3rd door - perhaps both.



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[Bulor]

zoid, your card is funny as hell.
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i just pray for 1 thing at all RR we do.. that everyone just stacks at doors, and let the SM's do there job.

no one should ever be on the hill side.. not even to rest.

hell, lets hit the RK tonight, just to weaken doors.


i like the idea of using dodens as a backdoor to sneak in.. would bring a lil more adventure into our lil quest =)

[Drutt-myth]

I can get a 100 mids how many can you guys get ?

[Twystyd]

Drutt I would guess around 40. Most likely about 20 BWC and 20 allies but with the Evo/LV move we lost a few bodies.

[Menagery]

Tingtong INC is/has been growing. Woot woot we can easily field one group or 2 if we bring all the SM's with a little notice.

As of Tuesday June 16th Stationed in Savas by the vault will be 2 characters. One is named Ramvendor the other Rammy. Each holds 10 Complete Rams and as of tomorrow they will have enough wood on them for all 20 rams. If you message me in game I can easily log in and hand them over or be ready to hand out in a moments notice for a raid.

I am also toying with the idea of logging a guy in yagga with 8k heartwood. So if we do defend successfully we can easily start repairing quickly. If I do he will be logged there as of tomorrow also.

See you in game

[Twystyd]

I love you guys, you r0k. Tingtong for teh win ~

[Gil DaTroll]

It doesnt take massive numbers to ninja a relic. We had 58 when we took the power relics to get all 6. AND we had few rams!

Lets hit Excall this week at around 6AM EST with 9 rams?