Alliance....

[Bobyearl]

What is the new standard for the alliance? Are we RVR or PVE? or Are we just kinda going for everything just a higher standard to join the BWCa? I know this used to be an RVR alliance, but it seems we have drifted from that in the last few months. I know it has been MLs lately, but it goes farther from that. I have no problem whatever it is. I ajustut curious b/c guilds are asking me what alliance I am in and what we are about fairly often. I usually refer them to here, but I would like to be able to give them a more informed answer.

[Adida]

my simple answer is yes there has been alot of pve going on however we are getting ready for NF. Some guilds were saving up bps to hold keeps and others are getting their mls out of the way so we could concentrate on nf completely. Scince NF is out today i can forsee us focusing on that and finishing up what little pve we need to do for it

[Nese]

BWC is a RvR alliance, and I feel that we strive to keep it that way. Since summer has started and ToA has gotten stale, many people have taken breaks and its been pretty relaxed as far as RP whoring. Now that NF is live, your gonna see some serious shit. Who knows what Gun has up his sleeve, but I assure you its gonna be a blast the next couple of weeks.

[Joshll]

New Frontiers comes out today. Things will change from what they were. We have all gotten sloppy about homeland defense. Most of us have gone TOA crazy. That changes today.

It's a new era. BWC is a RVR alliance again.

BWCA guilds are expected to participate in homeland defense again. BWCA guilds are encouraged to join our bg's when we are raiding other realms. It's time to get off the PVE treadmill and farm farm farm farm our enemies until they go and cry on VN.

I feel very strongly that Midgard as a whole had gotten really Alb-like. It's time for that to change. I don't want to force anyone to do what they don't want to do, but I have the expectation that guilds that would like to remain in this alliance be willing to help in realm vs realm combat. That includes offense and defense. Thats my opinion, but I think most of BWC will second that.

(Now this doesn't mean that we won't do ML's or artifact raids. We'll still slay the dragon. But if most of your guild likes to level alts in Modergrav, I would question if this is the best alliance for you)

Lets have some fun

[Sirion]

"But if most of your guild likes to level alts in Modergrav, I would question if this is the best alliance for you"

you shut the hell up about modernagrav...!

on a serious note though, i know that alot of our guild and chances are most of the other guilds on mid are just trying to get as much of the hard pve outta the way as they can in order to be able to concentrate more completely on rvr with the comming of NF. i know i dont want to be on a 9 hour ml3 raid with new shit to do in the frontiers, or a 7-8 hour ml7 raid farming factions. most people are trying to get all that difficult stuff outta the way now, that way they can just rvr and enjoy themselves.

that being said malice is a motherfucker and i hope it explodes.

[Hall]

With the NF system it literally takes about 3 mins to mobilize your self for homeland defense. If anyone has a problem with homeland in NF ima go out ona limb and say GTFO. I plan to finish my 2 arts and when ever call goes out port my lil happy has with a dimuinitve siege device and start recking shop wherever it may be


IF YA SMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEALALALLAALALOW
What the Hall.............................
is baking

[Bobyearl]

Does this mean that guilds will start being held accountable for their activity? I know my guild NN is sometimes more PVE than RVR, but we do have our good days(over 200k yesterday). I would just like BWCa to get the prestige back that it once had. I know that after next week when I get ml10 I will be RVR almost exclusively.

I feel that guilds should be accountable personally. If the various leaders of the BWCa feel that my guild is not RVRing enough I would like a message telling me so. If we do not pick up the pace on the RPs, I would understand either a warning/probation or even removal from the alliance. I would like that to be the new standard for NF. I know it is not up to me, but thought I would share my idea, so it can be picked at, refined, and maybe made into a rule or something like that.

It is best to deal with problems before the arise rather than after is why I bring this up.

[Majesticone]

We've actually had some discussions previously on this topic. I believe the conclusion at that time was that RP's alone did not necessarily measure a guild's participation. Cooperation and being there when needed was also looked on favorably. As the GM of one of the smaller guilds in BWCa, I appreciated that conclusion. However, I understand the need to revisit it if needed.

We are fired up about NF and looking forward to joining in. We were out in the Homeland last night and claimed a keep during the mass retake. Our hearts and spirits are there, we just can't always find enough people to join in, but we do try.

We are also woefully short on ML's and artifacts for many of our members. We are working on that and trying to make ourselves as competitive as we can since Mythic has seen fit to put ToA into the RvR equation.

We will definitely be there when needed. My expectations are that today will be a major lagfest with many downtimes, so I'm sure we will experience a lot of frustration, but I know the guild in our alliance will prevail. Go BWCa!

[Bobyearl]

My opinion:

Total RPs I think is still not the problem... but participation and an "overall" guild participation in RVR. but if you have a smaller guild you DO have to make up a little bit for being a small guild. Maybe all your people are high ML and lead raids or you RVR ALOT, or whatever, but I feel if you are in a small guild being in this alliance should be "harder" not less fun or more "difficult." I think there should be a minimum standard for total RPs. Something very low like 100k. I think all of our guilds in this alliance have at least 25 members. That is only 4k a week in a 25 member guild. You can get that easy...

The only reason that I think that a minimum standard is needed is because BPs are going to be so important.

This is all speculation at this point since we do not know how NF is going to really work... I still think this should be addressed though, regardless of NF.

[Twystyd]

RvR alliance IMO. Just out of curiosity how are all the guilds doing on BP's?

[Kirt]

hmm not sure would have to check after mythic gets there shit together

should be a decent amount tho

[Bobyearl]

I wanna say Nex has about 100k BPs... We claimed Glenlock and have it on its way to level 7. I figured there will be lots of action there unless we get to another realm FAST. If not both other realms

[Elvana]

Minimum RPs per week/month is not a good idea imo. Ive seen it tried before in other guilds/alliances and it always ends up doing more harm than good. I'd hope we can look at activity/contribution rather than rps per week.

[Ormeld]

I totally agree, if the guilds in the alliance perticipate then its all good, id rather have a small guild that listens and follows directions and only brings 500k of rps a week instead of a selfish guild that brings in 2mil and doesn't listen or perticipate.

[Psychotix]

Even though you are a small guild you should in my opinion be atleast able to form your own group regularly. I know BWC likes to do guild groups and alot of the time we run 2-3g's( raids ) and dont always have spots open for just 2-3 members from the smaller guilds ... but when we do we gladly add them to our group.

If BWCA is gonna be hardcore once again frontiers i feel that the smaller guilds will need to step up a bit.