Bloodwinter Clan

Since new server will have real estate buff situation (no parked buff bots), will Albion or Midgard have any advantages? Or about teh same?

I do not know so much about Albion but on Midgard most buffs come from Enchantment-Specialized Shamen, which is not the most exciting spec to play. Will Albion specced toons for buffs, be more plentiful (played more)? Or will both realms be about the same, in this regard?

Albion will be less likely to have friar resists in every group, where mid will always have a shaman.

Well, for full resists, speed, CC, endurance, and spec buffs, for each realm you will need:

Mid:

2 Aug/Cave Shamans
1 Aug Healer
1 Pac Healer
1 Skald
3 DPS

Alb:

2 Rej/Enh Clerics
1 Friar
1 Minstrel
1 Pally
1 Sorc
2 DPS

Hib:

2 Druids
1 Bard (some will go 2 bards)
1 Warden
4 DPS

While some of the above characters will contribute to DPS, the Hib group definately has the most flexibility.

Albs get a bit of a "healing" edge, since they have a lot of healing power in that setup.

Mids have the plus of having most likely a shaman who has good sheers, and one for AE disease, which with no group disease purge will be great.

For Albs, could swap the Friar for a Heretic, which would let you do ok against most mid groups (which will be basically melee stacked), but setting up the "perfect" group would be difficult, which is why most albs if smart won't be running around in single groups.

We got Friar FILTH!

and another Friar

he kicks ass for the lord and buffs for teh win!

keep in mind, skald and friar are like 75% of a dps class, and that a sorc is a dd class. mid and alb arent really all that bad off. I also dont know what hib class has desease, but as stated above ae dot and ae desease pretty much rape healer mana, and mid is the only group that has them.

So when we roll the hell outa the hibs, dont feel that bad you really arent all that over powered, just fotm.

and i think mid has the healing edge, we have 1 or 2 spread heals, depending on pac spec healer, and 2 shamans that will be healing a bit, vs useless friar heal that will never happen.

I feel bad for alb cause i think they are on teh short end of teh stick, but it isnt a simple 2,3,4 dps breakdown like ppl liek to make it out to be, realisticly a good skald mezz or mins stun could be the differnce in any battle.

Grumpy wrote:and i think mid has the healing edge, we have 1 or 2 spread heals, depending on pac spec healer, and 2 shamans that will be healing a bit, vs useless friar heal that will never happen.

Too bad that makes no sense since Friars and Shamans have the exact same spec heal at the exact same levels, except Friars will be casting theirs faster because they will always have better Dex from self buffs than Shamans will, unless Shamans go for high Aug, in which case they are going to have to either sacrifice pbae disease kiting for heals, or heals for pbae disease kiting. I guess we'll have to see how good Friars can be, if they suck, there are plenty of classes that they can be traded out for ;D

The argument wasn't about having the same specline heal vs a shaman. It was about having a friar pull off of someone their trying to kill acting as a Grp DPS, wait 5 seconds.. THEN heal someone and try not to get hit in the process.

vs a Shaman who can PBAE Disease Kite, AE DOT, Bolts, Spam AE and single target root and interupt casters and have 2nd best buffs/resists 38aug/31cave/22mend btw..

Sure you can fill that spot for something else and loose your 16% Heat/Cold/Matter resists so shamans can dot and root you better and Dark sm's/runnies can nuke u better.

Actually, I think I did a pretty good job of quoting the arguement. The "arguement" (which wasn't even an arguement, in the first place) wasn't about the utility of a Friar vs a Shaman, the statement in question was:

Grumpy wrote:and i think mid has the healing edge, we have 1 or 2 spread heals, depending on pac spec healer, and 2 shamans that will be healing a bit, vs useless friar heal that will never happen.

And I was simply trying to clear up a possible misconception, which I did, quite clearly.

The only thing Alb has going for it is Bolt range mez and debuffs (con/str and dex/quiick) all on one class. A sorc who gets all of their crap off will bring a world of hurt to a group in addition to having high hitting lifetaps. That is why the sorc is usually killed first.