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PvP Mechanics

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:14 am
by Sirion
How does the AoE work in AoC? I've been reading forums, and it's looking like you can kill your team mates via friendly fire. Is that how it works for everyone, or can you not harm people in your own guild/group/alliance or whatever?

For example, if we are holding a BK, and say a guild like Ravenous (just as an example since they are coming from DAoC also) is helping us defend, are my Conquerors AoE attacks going to be able to harm Ceregon's HoX (same guild) or some one from Ravenous' character (not in our guild, but on our side of the engagement as far as teams are concerned)?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:51 am
by Elfdroper Gravelender
:toothy10: Hmm well in beta if you were in a group fighting another group that had guildies in it the guildies could die. I'm not sure if it differs for alliances...I would assume that if your in the same alliance then groups would not be able to hit each other, but i'm guessing.

If you can damage alliance guild then it would make for a lot of good teamwork while defending. I.E. all BWC would be defending this part of a keep while all our ally guilds are defending over here, out of our deadly wrath. :toothy10:

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:01 am
by Sirion
Well, if FF is possible, then it could make for some interesting tactics as far as even interguild grouping is concerned.

I just read a post (from a former KoS member in DAoC ironically) that said:

"In AoC, outside the BKs, I can see a small, balanced and competent force killing 2-3x their number. Mostly because of the AE immunity for your group, and the other groups getting in each other's way with friendly fire. AE is huge in this game.

In BK battles, friendly fire won't happen. But AE will still be very powerfull because of the sheer # of targets."

I was just wondering if that was accurate. It might actually be viable to make AoE groups that flank high numbers of players, but don't get to close to each other to FF themselves. I just wasn't sure how it worked inside of your own guild

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:06 pm
by Candide
Two things:

Your group is immune to your AoE's.

BattleKeep battles, your entire team is considered one group (including mercenaries if you hire them).

Open world PvP though, two groups not raided together or whatever, yes they could hurt each other.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:21 pm
by Sirion
even if they are in the same guild, correct?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:29 pm
by Candide
yes, in OB, guildies not grouped could kill each other.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:44 pm
by Nilbert500
there is collision detection in this game though right? So AE won't be as bad if people can't stack up on each other.