Canceld my accounts

[Alka]

Hello,

It might be some kind of surprise, but I just canceled all my accounts.

I was out in Emain and saw Cripp surrounded by albs. One caster ( not a friar ) stands a little aside. I PAed, CDed him and then got in a DF. Cause all ppl where dancing around Cripp I got all the time for that. After my chain the caster was still above 50%, rooting me and nuking me down in 2 strikes. I was not buffed at that moment, cause my laptop with cliffhealer on it crashed 5 mins ago. Bad luck for mythic, cause I got so pissed on not beeing able to kill a caster unbuffed after PA, CD and DF that I just hit cancel on all my accounts.

It was a great pleasure to meet you all. I never played a mmog before and I liked the BWC community. I joined BWC in a time when healer where seldom and Rolondo and Ugnot made such nice comments on Alka that I resisted to join RL friends in SUN. That was a good idea.

I will wait for some month now. If the game changes in some very important aspects I might reconsider and come back, hoping to be welcome in BWC again, but I dont believe in that.

See you all, thanks for having me in your groups. I will be here on this board to keep me informed about what is going on if you dont mind.

Alka, Wipe

[Joshll]

I really feel for the zerks and sb's out there.

I also cancelled after this last patch to make a statement to Mythic. I'll play out the time remaining, and maybe renew on a monthly basis, but that last patch was too much.

[Rhiandra Rangnar]

Sorry to see you go. Hopefully Mythic will address this last patch and make corrections in the near future.


So many really great people/players have called it quits, they must take notice to that ....... right?

[Bulor]

i don't see myself renewing my account(s) after it's 6month thing is over.. the SB was the only thing keeping me in the game.. it's like.. i start a warrior becuase the lil booklet says they are a amazing class in the battlefield.. and to my surprize... it's not.. i'm caster/stealther/ and the lowiest form of tank bait out there... heck i sort of wish i was a thane.. atleast i can AOE hammer the hell out of everyone and break mez.. and still Slam ppl to death=(.

So then i decide to start a SB, but first to help level my sb i need a shammybot.. so Djur is spawned and created.. taken to 50 and all (Bulor and djur did all of djurs epics alone too! was wild.. Bulor the PvE warrior for the win) so now End regen gets nerf.. and brail can no longer longwing>sprint all the way to FS =(.. and double frost uses to much end for the ammount of damage it doesn't do.

So.. so far i have 2 gimped chars.. so i make my SB.. level him.. finally have fun in daoc after 8 mnths of being gimped... can finally play a role in RvR.. climbing keeps.. actually being able to kill another player.. being able to stand a chance.. then the 1 class i like gets hit with the hardiest nerf bat there is..

So now i still have my other chars in the works.. my 49 SM.. 45 Healer...hunter... Rm... Thane...Cel bot...Poc bot... all for what? all for not =(.

[Zoidmeister]

Sorry to hear it Wipe but I can definitely empathize with you.

I think 1.62 was a quickly thrown together and was not tested/thought out properly. I hope Mythic re-examines balance after this patch and makes some changes especially to help LA out.

[Alka]

This is what I sent to sanya@mythicentertainment.com today

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Dear Sanya,

I played DAOC since end of 2001. I played a healer first, then a shadowblade. It was much fun and I enjoyed the environment you all designed.

I have to inform you that I canceled all my accounts because of the 1.62
patch. I know that it is next to impossible to design a balanced game, but this last patch was unfair to shadowblades in some important aspects. There are several very good postings out there explaining the situation so there is no need for me to add something.

Yours,

[Bulor]

this is a e-mail i send to mythic on a daily basis.. =(

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Balance suggestions:
I always felt the game should follow the basic paper > rocks > sissors concept. Whereas Casters kill tanks, tanks kill stealthers, and stealthers kill Caster... a nice circle of life and whatnot

Here are a few suggestions to imrpove rvr combat as a whole.

Caster:
they are fine.. they do what they are designed to do currently, destory tanks.. and they do it well.

Heavy Tanks:
Allow them to be able to be the counter-balance for stealthers.. as it stands, they can counter Archer types with simple engage, but they have a hard time vrs Assassin classes, due to Duel wilders Halving the block/parry rate of the heavy tank.
Allow heavy tanks to be the counter for all stealthers.. give Tanks Detect Hidden, allowing them to see stealthers better within a certain ammount of range. also Halve Evade rates vrs Heavy tanks Shield spec users.

This would also balance Heavy tanks Vrs Light tanks.

Stealthers(archers/assasin)
Remove the RA's True Sight, and See Hidden.. RA's should not be made for balance. Give those RA's free to the class with a 35 base spec in stealth.. keep See hidden as passive with the new Range changes, and put True sight on a 15 min timer instead of 30 min. Perfect Balance is found!

Assassins (INFs/NS/SB)
No one ever understood the reason why Infs have a 2.5 spec point per level. but it seems fair that NS and SB should have it aswell. with the new LA chances, and the damage decrease, SBs are really loosing out on having a stun style in a low damageing style line. INFS and NS each have a stun style off evade, as for SBs we have a stun style off the 2nd chain in an evade.. it was ok before the damage decrease.. please make the stun the first style in the evade so that SBs still have reason to spec in LA.

SB's also need a better RA like Vanish and Viper. maybe 100% chance to Crit for 15 seconds on a 15 min timer?

HEAVY TANKS:(HEROs/ARMs/WARs)
Armsmen and warriors need some flare just as good as moose mode on the hero. Warriors could use  a nice group friendly RA like BoF / SoS.. would give groups mroe reason to group warriors.

Also for all shield spec users.. allow more levels of guard abilty.. for each 10 points into the base spec.. 10/20/30/40/50 allows a new guard abilty, guard1,2,3,4,5.. allowing the shield spec heavy tank to guard up to 5 players in his group at the same time.. that would be perfect.. aswell as give reason for shields.. small shield guards 1+self, med, guards up to 3+self, large guards up to 5+self.. also remove the cooldown timer on larger.medium shield aswellas end usage for slam attacks, make it all the same as the small shield.. the warrior shouldn't be punched for being able to use a large shield.

Thankyou, and i hope you take my suggestions of Balance into concideration.

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[Twystyd]

Well miss you Alka and of course you are welcome back . 1.62 sux.

[Sirion]

the problem with tanks, as it is now, is that dual wielders get a bonus to shield, that shouldnt be the way it is. if you can block 3 attacks at one time, why do you block only 50% as often when one person is using 2 weapons. i would think that logically parry would be more damaged by dual wielding since its hard to parry one weapon, let alone two.

archers should have been the assassin counter. they should never have gotten stealth, they should be the ones with detect hidden, and whatnot. archers should be casters that hunt assassins. while assassins kill casters, and tanks kill anything they get close enough to pwn.

[revumbra]

you are an unbuffed assassin and lost?
I could have told you that would happen. Ever since the buff level change, the scale up of defense to classes is nuts. An unbuffed INF will die vs a caster as well. Why, casters don't go out without buffs because they are in a group. Buffbots for assassins are no longer a luxury but a requirement..sadly.

I still don't understand the 2.5 spec bitch but there are a lot more things to do in balance than nerfing. If you look at the key aspect of this game, it is BUFFS that ruin 99% of the game. Buffs for some classes make up greater than 50% of the damage and to be honest that is stupid. Buffs of any sort should not increase anyones damage beyond 20%.

Stupid things in the assassin world beyond buffs up until recently were:

SB:
LA..they entire damage was 2x any other style which was moronic.
Lack of thrusting weapons...don't know why
HP table for Norse (yes i have seen SBs with more than 2k hp)
Crappy RAs (this is a midgard thing)
lack of an evade stun in Axe/Sword (2nd line of chain)
Remove HP buff

NS:
Slash resist leather
stun off an evade style at lvl 25 Pierce (should be moved to a 2nd line of a chain)
Avoidance of Pain..nice tank RA for an assassin
Shouts that are resisted and use hellish amounts of END (just remove them)
CDW...has mythic ever looked at these styles?

Infs
Dragonfang! (needs to be made a lvl 25 style with a 5 sec stun in the 2nd line of a chain)
2.5 spec points, put them back at 2.2x (or hell put all assassins back at 2.0 spec)
DW? Well it is better than CDW but not by much.


See Hidden was stupid as well as True Sight.
The latest boggle for Mythic is Rapid Fire for Scouts shooting at the same speed as Hunters but for far greater damage.

If you want a balanced game, well you might as well play Quake or Counter strike because there is no balanced MMORPG.

[Crippler]

Yea I saw the whole thing, TG had me mezzed by the silo and started dancing around me and emoting the hell out of me instead of killing me. Kwisatch (RR10 Sorcerer) was standing off by himself and I saw Wipe pop and do his combo to him and did like 50% Damage before anyone even noticed. It was sad to see what the nerf truly did in real time RvR combat. It's shitty you're quitting Alka

[Twystyd]

Yes Alka is one of my favorites. It;s funny she played Andred with BWC/CoE and I played with her RL friends in SUN/Cult =p. Peekay for teh win. Alka you friends with Sproket or Tabaal (the real one not the ED gimp you see now)?

[Sirion]

hp table for assassins is a funny complaint. my norse critblade fully buffed from a guildy's buff bot (47aug moa3) has 2072 hits with aug con1 and toughness2. this is with everything capped. i would estimate the average buffed norse shadowblade's hits to be somewhere in the 18-1900s, it may be alot, but its worthless when people nuke you for 400 consistantly dispite 26%+ resists to all.

the hp table "increase," from what everyone has said, doesnt do much. i would be interested to see a briton's, not a saracen's, hps with similar buffs and RAs. i dont know if will be the same, but i doubt it will be much different. it certainly doesnt make up for slash resistant armor caster and tank RAs, and 2.5x specs with a 9second stun based off something you do roughly 30-50% of your combat time, evade.

i do think leftaxe was trash, which is why so many people spec'd it, and all of the people quitting the class over this nerf should honestly leave. ive never had to rely on either buffbots or leftaxe to win fights. sometimes you have to just watch what styles you use and what backup styles you use, it would surprise the shit out of some of you how throwing a crap damage detaunt with a very high defensive bonus tends to make you evade letting you land the hamstring chain for even more high defense bonus styles and awesome damage.

wipe, i understand your frustration, ive dealt with it daily since SC went into the game. with max'd resists to everything, heal pots usable in combat, and a buffbot sitting safely at the pk, ive seen my primary targets go from easy prey with a chance to oneshot, to better stear clear because if they arent dead in 2 shots then im dead instead.

[revumbra]

I am not sure of RR, but I asked a fellow rr8 Inf briton what his hp were and it was 1900. As a saracen I am just clearing 1800.
These are using a Enh 50 rr4.5 cleric putting all into that buff RA.
These stats are from Palo

[Sirion]

in that case, compairing norse to briton, with norse having a higher starting con, the difference is roughly 172 hits with similar buffs.

i would much rather have 2.5x specs than 150-250 more hits that are easily destroyed with a str/con debuff and higher weapon skill due to the ability to spec 50 in a weapon at no lose to other skills.... and certainly for slash resistant armor thats neutral to thrust, and wild arcana, viper, and aop.

/shrug thats just me though