niki, xilys

[Amit]

suggestions on RR? you 2 have been on many in keep door bashing excercises, what can we do better to help it work? really if 2 rams go up 10 minutes is all we need to get in and get the relics

im wondering maybe we should have you guys break doors 2, what do you think?

i think one key issue is not having enough epople on the raid to kill the gaurds, but on this server im torn as to how to keep spies out and yet get enough mids

[Psychotix]

-more shadowblade !!! to take down guards inside while we on doors

-i noticed from teh spam today that a good idea would be to only let group leaders talk in cg

-i know this is a harder one to organize but pick up RR's dont work trhey need ot be organized ( my 2 cents ) need to pick poeple by maybe messaging guild leaders and saying : listen i wanna do a RR plz hand pick and message privetly 1 or 2 uber group u think can benefit this RR and will listen to everything i say and no complaints.

well those are my ideas

[Amit]

let me ask ya this, you say more SB for the guards inside, i think maybe then i need to explain plan a little better. the idea is that the SB inside who are door ramming NEVER hit a mob. They just keep ramming and let mob hit them. Hopefully the mend healer can heal enough to draw aggro and pull the guards outside to die

[Psychotix]

we had 4 sb's go in and our healer (hyla) and 2 shammy's were constantly out of power. the only things that really need to be killed are the wizards and i think before next RR we should take the keep that makes the wizards ... i think its bold ... not sure.

[Zoidmeister]

Maybe have separate teams take bold/hurbury to knock out wizards (ideally they drop within minutes of each other).

At that point RR team is near Excal ready to go to work as soon as both drop.

Can't wait to respec pac/mend after 1.62 so my heals are more effective on Rat

[Sirion]

a potential good way to keep guards off shadowblades inside the keep without making the healer take dmg, is have one shadowbalds target directly below the rammers, and have a rc runie gtae. the guards are much easier to peel off of a runie that does 60-100 dmg to each of them than a healer thats healed 500ish hps in 2 rounds of combat.

ive been to a few of these pickup rr's and it seems to me we lack intelligent tanks and pbae as a whole. people dont seem to understand "drag them to the doors to pbae" and the wizards just arent being taken care of fast enough. it would be nice to take bold and hurb (other wizzy keep?) but to take both those keeps at the same time, we would need 2ish groups on each of those keeps and still have a force large enough to handle the guards a the rk.

after being in a few TG raids a question comes to mind, what level are the uber rk guards, and can they be tank mez'd? IF we can somehow attempt to tankmez the initial guards, we dont have to deal with 1) new pops 2) tons of deaths because of healers/runies gaining aggro/dying and 3) no guard spam. im not sure if that can be done, but if we can get a few groups of good tanks then maybe it can be done. /shrug who knows.

[Naturalis]

yea just more sb's.. i remember once when i went in, and it was just me and telal, we had rr clear for about 3 minutes to ram.. but a few albs trickled in, like 1 or 3 at a time.. and they need to die or our rammer would die.

so..we need 3 sb's to ram, and about another fg sb's to defend, kill archers, kill defenders porting in....all the rest of the mids, kill outside gaurds and just cover the GK mainly